Demi Lovato has a lot to celebrate today: The success of her YouTube documentary series, the impending release of her new album, and now, her official coming out.
On Tuesday (March 30), Lovato appeared on the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience to chat with the podcast host about her upcoming album, new documentary show and more. During their conversation, the two started talking about having kids and getting married, and Lovato’s ended engagement with Max Ehrich, when the star began speaking about her “fluidity” with attraction.
“I also don’t know if I’m going to end up with a guy, so I can’t really see myself maybe getting pregnant,” she said, talking about whether or not she would want to have kids. “I’m so fluid now — and a part of the reason why I am so fluid is because I was super closeted off.”
Rogan asked some clarifying questions about her fluidity, eventually asking if the term “pansexual” felt right for her. “Yeah, pansexual,” she said with a smile.
The singer continued, saying that there was another phrase she heard someone use that she liked even more. “I heard someone call the LGBTQIA+ community the ‘alphabet mafia,’ and I was like, ‘That’s it. That’s what I’m going with,'” she said. “I’m part of the alphabet mafia and proud.”
Later on in their conversation, Lovato spoke about how seeing the famous picnic scene from Cruel Intentions between Sarah Michelle Gellar and Selma Blair was the first time she noticed something in herself. “I was like, ‘Oh, I like that,'” she said. “But I felt a lot of shame because growing up in Texas as a Christian, that’s very frowned upon. Any attraction I had to a female at a young age, I shut it down before I even let myself process what I was feeling.”
This is far from the first time that Lovato has spoken about her queer identity. In a recent cover story with Glamour, Lovato spoke up about how she wanted to get very specific about her identity with her audience sooner rather than later. ““I know who I am and what I am, but I’m just waiting until a specific timeline to come out to the world as what I am,” she said. “I’m following my healers’ timeline, and I’m using this time to really study and educate myself on my journey and what I’m preparing to do.”
You can check out the full episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Demi Lovato, below: